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Monday, August 3, 2015


I will remind those new to this blog that I'm the founder of this modern day domestic sex trafficking movement before I begin this post.  If you check the news clippings at you will see that I was the first person who stepped up in 1987 - which was 13 YEARS before the Trafficking Act of 2000 was written to tell the public that (1) sex trafficking was real and happening today not something of the past as was believed at the time, (2) I set up the first hotline for adult victims to call for help (second only to the Children of the Night hotline that had been set up for teens in 1979), (3) the first program for people leaving the sex industry, some of who had been trafficked, could find help to move on with their lives to another level, and (4) calling for our country to stop treating these victims like criminals and instead HELP us.  So in other words - I'm the Bill Wilson of the alcoholism movement who founded Alcoholics Anonymous.  You need to understand this before you can understand where I'm coming from with this post to the blog.

So when celebrities first started jumping on the band wagon and saying in the press "oooh oooh I want to do something to help" I was actually stupid enough to believe them.   Please remember this is a movement we're talking about so there's a history here I'm trying to educate you about by writing this blog.  BEFORE - you wouldn't get a celebrity to talk about sex trafficking because not only did people not believe it was real - it wasn't popular.  I again point you to movies like this one that used to be very popular at one time.

Which means when celebrities started talking about sex trafficking - it was new at that time.  It was new to me to hear them talk about it also.  So when I'd hear a celebrity talk about "wanting to get involved to help"  I would then get ahold of SAG, find out who their agent was, then I'd send over information on our group, and I'd ask to please speak to this celebrity so I could get them involved in the movement.

You remember, celebrities like Sarah Jessica Parker,   or Daryl Hannah,  Kristin Stewart, and 100 other celebrities I wound up spinning my wheels trying to make contact with when I would hear them make these public announcements about wanting to actually get involved with doing something about domestic sex trafficking.  Wearing a red "x" on your hand IS NOT DOING SOMETHING.  Now I'm not singling anyone out here but the reality is the ONLY celebrity who ever actually got involved to help us was Frances Nuyen - a woman who has now been threatened to "back off" helping us by the way currently.  Geraldo Rivera was another in the 1980's who helped us get publicity and exposure on his talk shows.   To be frank - Hugh Hefner actually ponied up a $1,000,000 donation to Children of the Night.  Now that's doing something!

But I kept being thanked politely for my calls and blown off by their people.  Then I saw Jada Pinkett-Smith kicking off her "Don't Sell Bodies" campaign.  This was before she got the role on Gotham by the way.  This campaign was to raise support for Proposition 35.  So again I'm making the silly mistake of thinking that she'd want to talk to me not only as the founder of the movement itself, not only as the person who announced that sex trafficking did exist within the legal sex industries such as legal brothels and strip clubs as well as on porn sets as I did in our 2007 press conference, but also as the founder of the oldest, and largest, program of adult survivors in the world, Sex Workers Anonymous.  In fact, our oldest recovering members all live in California - so I'm thinking they'd love to get involved somehow in a campaign to help victims.

I did get a call from some assistant of Jada's trying to make sure I didn't feel slighted - that was clear.  But when I would ask to meet with Jada and speak to her about what WE would like to see happen to help US - I got nowhere.  I had just started moving back to Los Angeles then and I had hooked up with an old friend who has been making movies for 30 years.  He told me that he was going to help us produce a documentary, edit it, and help us with production.  Strangely, the very week he agreed to help us he got fired from his job at Sony he'd been at for 12 straight years - but we didn't think it was connected yet at the time.

So anyway - I'm talking to him about all this website stuff I'm seeing for the "Don't Sell Bodies" campaign and how I can't find any way to speak to Jada directly and my friends laughs.  He then starts educating me on how people in Hollywood these days are picked for roles based on their internet ranking.  Meaning that the more clicks and hits you get on your name or your website - the more likely you're going to be picked to be in a film.

He then told me the "inside scoop" was that she wasn't doing a lot of work since Matrix and he believed a lot of this was hype to revitalize her career.  Then he showed me how everyone else was using the key words and hashtags of "sex trafficking" to get traffic onto their websites, increasing their "ranking" and thus making it more likely for them to get work.  Also pointing out they only start talking about this subject when they're in between films and looking for work.  Which I had to agree was true.  Daryl talked her way into doing a documentary.  Kristin had just finished her last movie about the Runaways and was in between gigs and suffering from bad press about her breakup with Robert Pattinson, and going back over the list I began to see his point.   He starts explaining how in Hollywood every is done by formula now and numbers, and how people are living and dying by the numbers on their social ranking and what better way to generate some people googling your name than talking about sex trafficking right?

Then he pointed out the obvious "you seeing her calling you?".  No.  He then predicted "watch - she'll get some new role soon and probably forget all about this".  Which frankly she did get that role in Gotham shortly after and I did see her numbers go up on the sites he showed me.   I did see her stop campaigning about sex trafficking while she was filming Gotham.  Then when filming with Gotham ended now she's started back up with this CNN show.  Notice how a week later the show aired - her ranking has gone down 216 percent by this screen shot below.   Sites like "star meter" that show ranking right on the imdb site itself.  So yes sex trafficking has been "very very good" for Jada in my Andy Kaufman voice.

As I continued to try and make contact with no success with Jada about this campaign because there are some serious flaws in the wording of this Proposition - I can't help but think he's right.  I called a woman I know who works with young prostitutes coming off the streets and asked her what she thought about this Proposition 35.  She called it a "publicity campaign".  I'm like how?  She tells me the whole wording is wrong, it's going to be kicked out (which it was), and that it's all about generating publicity - not about doing anything to create any real solutions.  If this proposition was about solutions - they have access to  the best legal minds in the world and they could certainly word it better than something they know is just going to get kicked back.  So basically I'm hearing the same take on this from two different worlds - that this about publicity not about solutions.

Now Jada says in interviews she got involved in this because of what her daughter was seeing going on in her schools.  Well I bet she was.  The whole Montana Fishburne case was unfolding at about the same time starting about 2010 when it was hitting the news.   For those new to this - Montana is Laurence Fishburne's daughter.  Who was in Matrix also by the way.  Montana has been "turned out" at about 16 years old by another 16 year old boy named Jeremy Greene or J-Pipe's.  Jeremy was also trying his hand at a rap music career as well as his new porn career when he turned 18 years old.

So he's in this whole world where Snoop Dogg is "fascinated by pimping" and his 2003 tour he speaks about in Rolling Stone - where he's now setting up this whole youth football league that's also spreading all over Los Angeles like a virus.   So how would she NOT hear about this from her school age children here in Los Angeles because we now have pimps spreading all over our Los Angeles county schools in connection with all of this?  Also, she's certainly going to hear about Montana.

But let me just ask you this - does making tougher gun laws STOP anyone from being murdered?  Does making tougher drug laws stop people from being addicts?   By the very nature of prostitution being illegal in California, and 99.99 percent of the USA, and by pimping being also illegal - then guess what?  Criminals are not deterred by the law.  Make tougher laws?   Is that a solution?

We see cases like this 16 year old in San Luis Obispo that did not roll out of bed a pimp.  Because what I'm seeing in the pimp world is the same thing you see in the drug world - you get the grown-ups to get kids to get their access to other kids.  Then you see the kids doing the stuff that would get a grown-up locked up for life.  Just as drug dealers have kids hold the drugs or transport them.  That way they go to juvie court and their life is trashed - but the grown-up just finds another kid.

So if yes Jada wanted to get involved in an actual SOLUTION, especially to tackle WHAT Willow was seeing in a Los Angeles county school system then chasing after a proposition that's just going to be thrown out is a wonderful way to increase your "social ranking" both in the public eye and also for the computer rankings that actors live and die by for jobs BUT IT'S NOT A SOLUTION.  In other words it's a great opportunity for her to advance her career - but for us - nothing.   Also the CNN documentary was filmed in ATLANTA.  I ask you - why not show us what Willow came home to tell her mother about seeing which was in Los Angeles County?  Well if this is about advancing her career - then there's no way in hell she's going to show what's going on in Los Angeles to the world then is she?

More people exploiting us for their gain - while we get nada in the way of something done to actually HELP US.   In other words, we're being pimped for someone's career.

Sounds kind of cold and calculating doesn't it?  Especially when this modern campaign I've seen since the movement got hijacked seems to want to focus on the African American male as a pimp as their demon "trafficker".  Which of course doesn't address that prostitution and sex trafficking are DIFFERENT THINGS.  Nor does it address the fact that a PIMP is not a TRAFFICKER.  They are DIFFERENT.

When we started this movement women like Jeane Palfrey and myself were trying to tell the world that we need a system that acknowledges that sometimes the traffickers are law enforcement, (like Chris Butler), DEA (like the strip club owners in New Jersey), or CIA (like Iran Contra).

Men who are WHITE.   Men who wear suits or uniforms.  THAT'S what we need built into the system.   We need a place to run not when our trafficker is a street pimp but when our trafficker is someone like those women in that NJ strip club had to deal with when their traffickers were DEA agents.   Because you can build 100 "safe houses" - they aren't going to help us if we can't go to them because men like that are looking for us to make sure we don't make it to court to testify against them.  Jeane didn't make it to that ethics hearing and I almost didn't make it out alive either.  That DEA strip club case - wouldn't have happened without a senator speaking out to "do something" about how those club owners were partying with Colombian drug dealers.   Which is why I'm over here waving red flags begging Jada to please please help us bring light to what's going on across this country right now and instead she's joined the war demonizing African American men instead as the problem because it helps her career.

I've been told that our blog postings are very "negative".  Well let me tell you something - there's a lot of people being "positive" out there.  So positive that no one wants to say the "emperor is not wearing any clothes".  Everyone is so worried about their jobs, their reputation, their election, their grant funding, their donations that no one is going to speak out the truth here about this being bullshit.  Fine - I don't have any of that so I can say that shit stinks.

Instead of listening to me because what I have to say is "negative" I saw all the celebrities like Gloria Steinem and Diane Von Furstenberg and all the celebrities hitch their wagons to women like Samoly Mam because she was "positive".  Only she was FAKE.

I got news for you - real victims are NOT being "positive" because we're still in the war zone LIKE WE ARE NOW.  We're still in the war zone when I have a woman in Pasadena, California announce that she wants to quit hooking at 50 years of age now that her son is going off to UCLA and two Pasadena cops, and a Pasadena judge slap her with two phony prostitution charges, threatening her they'll send her back to China if she doesn't go back to prostitutution with a third charge, that will get her the death penalty back in China.  And if you read about the arrest of Liang Yaohui - you'd know that threat was very real.  That when I try and get her record cleared up - I'm now being threatened by cops.  So NEGATIVE is this - it's not even included in Senator John Kerry's Trafficking in Persons report for 2015.  In fact, I'm not even invited to the ceremony to release it.  Wow.

I'm not alone in this crisis we're facing either when I read things like this -  Which by the way - you think this problem this judge is having is solved because you read that a "report is being done by the UC Irvine professor of law"?  Guess what?  HE says "no one has asked me to do any report".

California US Attorney Kamala Harris is busy reviewing an illegally made undercover videotape against Planned Parenthood   which I will repeat was illegally made and aired - no she'll review that and make a public statement  which she should even be watching because it was illegally made and aired (remember the ACORN producer who got fined $100,000 for the same thing?), but she WON'T address the issues this judge is having.

So Houston we got a serious problem.  A problem that someone with Jada's status could actually help us shine some light on.  Only I can't get her to even call me - let alone to get involved in the fact that I got people all over California right now saying that when they've tried to go to the police with information on a trafficking ring to help a victim that THEY'RE being threatened by the cops to "back off" also.  One man actually kept pushing to help his ex-girlfriend who was being trafficked and now he's got a gag order, a TRO and they even took away his legally owned guns.  Jada - are you listening?  

No - she's not.  When she was on Facebook promoting the CNN Freedom Project show that aired last week and answering questions - I was never responded to when I talked to her.  My request she contact me after in case she wanted to talk privately well I'm not hearing the phone ring by her OR her people that say they're working with domestic sex trafficking.  I specifically said I had a case I needed help with - but her people aren't getting back to me about that case either.   I guess because it's not about street prostitution - it doesn't count.

On this show, she just went to Atlanta to do a show with CNN about sex trafficking.  One by the way that focused on children who I hate to sound really cynical here folks but let's call a spade a spade.  KIDS GOT HELP ALREADY.   If a child is trafficked and then found again - there's a whole social system in place that will take care of that child.

However, when an adult is rescued they get bumkiss.  Their rent is still going to come due and they still have to find a roof over their head the next night.  And God forbid if their case is like the Snoop Dogg case where they can't file any charges against their trafficker to even get put into witness protection - because then once they're free - they still need to now find a place to sleep that night.  Freedom still means now you got to pay rent.

Which is the number one reason why when an adult sex trafficking victim does escape or does get rescued - why she or he will go right back to the sex industry.  Because now they're free and now what?  That was what happened to me.  I got out from under the ring that had been trafficking me and I still had rent due and still had a car payment and now I have all this PTSD to deal with and the physical damage - so now what?  I'm going to go to work at McDonald's?  I couldn't even get a job at McDonald's back then if I wanted to I was so messed up in the head.  

So I'm wondering how Will Smith is dealing with all of this.  I like Will Smith.  You want positive out of me?  I like Will Smith.  I have admired him ever since I read that when he got into some financial issues when he was filming the "Prince of Bel-Air" that he rented a small apartment and lived on a budget so he could pay off his debts.

In other words, he's a respectable man.  He got married and has kids he cares for instead of running like some playboy.  He doesn't beat his wife that I'm aware of.  He doesn't do drugs I'm aware of.  No one has seen him at some sleezy sex swinger party.  I see him in positive roles in films.  I don't see him disrespect women.  I don't see him glamorizing a criminal or a drug lifestyle.  I see him doing something very hard for any African American male in Hollywood to do, and for anyone in Hollywood for that matter.  He doesn't take roles just to pay the bills that sent bad messages to kids.  He plays heroes for other young kids to emulate.  He is truly a role model.

I like him.  I admire and respect him.  Which is why I was a little shocked when he took the role in "Focus" to be honest.  A role where he plays a con man.  That's actually out of character for him and why I think think he's trying to tell us something America.  His father in the film that taught him the "game" from a generational perspective is white.  The woman he uses in the film is white.  In fact, just about everyone but his best friend in that film is WHITE.   The film also showed how corruption can even be in so called "legitimate" business like the car racing field.  Even the other guy that made these bets with him was Asian.

Now I think Will Smith is trying to tell us something.  

For one thing - I have seen a very conspicuous ABSENCE of him when it comes to Jada's trafficking work and shows.

Folks - I'm having a heart attack.  I just went to go find links to show that when Jada has been talking about sex trafficking that Will has not been standing behind her on these interviews and shows to prove that.  As I was looking for these links - I found out that Jada is in Magic Mike XXL  I didn't watch Magic Mike XXL because it's about stripping.  Remember, I'm recovering from the sex industry.  So I don't go out and watch movies that glamorize strippers - male or female.  And please don't hand me that the script says something bad about it.  Everyone knows that the "anti-heroes" of gangsters are considered thus because there are films made about them.

Now I'm lost.  For one thing, anyone in this fight knows that Atlanta has just about as many strip clubs as Vegas and Florida.  That rappers will drop insane amounts of money in these Atlanta strip clubs.  I mean didn't I just do a report in 2007 proving that sex trafficking exists in strip clubs?  Didn't we see that in this DEA NJ strip club arrest?  Didn't Bob Herbert get threatened with a baseball bat to the head because he heard my claims, and then went out to a random strip club in Las Vegas and in 15 minutes found a woman who was there against her will and wrote about that in his NY Post column?  That verifying that sex trafficking does exist in strip clubs so angered then mayor Oscar Goodman that's why he threatened Bob that if he ever came back to Vegas he'd meet that baseball bat to the head?

So she's just a show about sex trafficking in Atlanta last week and now I learn she's in a movie glamouring male stripping?  Why am I not surprised to also read that and then read Will Smith and her are going to divorce.  No I don't think it's because she was just in a film with a bunch of hunky men.   I'm lost.  How can this woman go out with fangs bared about sex trafficking of our children and then do a film called Magic Mike XXL?  What because it's about men it's okay?  Really?  I could put 1000 links just like this up here too.

Jada - I think a lot of people are trying to tell you something besides me that you aren't listening to.  Including Will Smith.  It's just purely coincidental I guess that you timed this CNN Freedom Project at the same time as the release of "Magic Mike II" right?  I'm going to throw up I swear.   Well I'm writing this blog to educate you about how a movement works and this is a great lesson in how celebrities will use campaigns like sex trafficking to promote movies about strippers while denouncing sex trafficking.  I don't appreciate a movement I almost got murdered 100 times over trying to make happen being exploited by out to PROMOTE YOUR CAREER?  Goes to shows pimps can be female too readers.

That's why I admire Will Smith.  Thank you.  Thank you for standing up for what you believe the best way you can - which sometimes does means "standing down".   Willow - thank you for trying to talk to your mother about what's going on in the real world out here.  

But sometimes all you can do is "stand down".  It's why you didn't see me standing around at any of the Samoly Mam functions either.   Nor with Chong Kim or Ben Hillier either at any of their functions.  Ben got arrested.  Samoly Mam stepped down.  Jada makes another film.

Register your statement that mixed messages are NOT okay - don't go see Magic Mike II.   Don't google it or tweet about it either.  Just don't go.  

(copyright 2015 J. Williams all rights reserved)

Sunday, August 2, 2015


The year Annie got out of prostitution - I had suffered a stroke.  The hotline had gone down so too as did the Las Vegas meeting of Sex Workers Anonymous I had been running. I had the members around me – but no meeting. No one wanted to answer the phone, chair the meeting, etc. The members were very scared I was going to die. They'd come visit me daily, make sure I was okay, go to coffee with each other – but no one wanted to take on the responsibility of these jobs. My current husband then blamed the program for the stroke and because he wanted me to “just rest” he basically yanked the phone out of the wall and didn't tell me. I was bedridden so I didn't even know our hotline had been taken down until almost six months had gone by.  Our other local meetings in other cities were still meeting like in Phoenix, Chicago, Los Angeles, etc. but they had no way of connecting to each other without me being the "go between".  Doing the math however – Annie had come into recovery at the same time I went down.  So I wasn't there answering the hotline, doing outreach, etc., when she was coming into recovery.  I regret not being there for her when she did but clearly she had another path to walk.

However, I was known at the jails. I was known in the local NA meetings and treatment centers. I was “known” by many of the cab drivers, bartenders, cocktail waitresses, etc. So if you asked around – you could still find someone that knew about our program and how to reach me.   I was still having people call me saying "so and so gave me your number" then if someone were to have asked around.  My now ex-husband let our websites go down also. In fact, I lost some of the domains for a while and had to negotiate them back. But pretty much yeah I wasn't there when Annie came out of the business – but I wasn't that hard to find either.

When I got on my feet again – I read the news clippings about Annie starting her “Hookers for Jesus” program.  Boy did I hear about it. I watched the news as this woman put on a showgirl costume, headdress and all – and was going up and down the strip looking for hookers to talk to – telling people that “Jesus loved them”.  People were calling me saying "did you see this nonsense?"   So she kind of started out evangelizing at first – telling any homeless people “Jesus loved them” and trying to recruit people to come to her church run by Pastor Perez. Which got press for sure. Everyone I saw was laughing at the TV and thought she was nuts basically. I took it as a plea for help and started to reach out to her. I wanted to let her know about SWA – and that we had a big phone book full of recovering prostitutes she could speak to so she wasn't alone.  I also wanted to warn her about "post prostitution syndrome" many of us tend to suffer from without proper recovery.  

She kind of ignored me at first when I'd call. I didn't get any return phone calls. Then I heard she was going outreach at the AVN awards. Now I'd seen Shelley really flub that on TV so I thought maybe I could offer to help so she wouldn't just go in and have everyone shut her down. I got ahold of her and asked if she wanted some help doing outreach at the AVN. She was asking people to share expenses with her to buy a booth.  I didn't think a booth was a good expense. I mean how many porn models there to work are going to come over to a booth to talk to you?   I had suggested she save the booth money and we walk around and talk to the women when they were taking a cigarette break or in the ladies room so they weren't “working”.   She said she “needed the booth because she was selling t-shirts”.   Okay then – so she wasn't there doing outreach – she was there selling t-shirts.   She told me that's how she was paying her rent (she wasn't married yet).  I went ahead and let her do her thing – and I did my thing and then got ahold of her after the show.

She told me she'd “sold enough shirts to pay this month's rent” which kind of shocked me. I said “you're not working?” She said she hadn't gotten a job yet in recovery and that she was paying the rent selling these t-shirts.  I knew a guy who made bumper stickers so I told her I'd get the number for her. I also knew some jewelry people and told her if she was going to sell things at shows – I could hook her up.    I was making $10,000 a week selling perfume and jewelry for a while at shows so it's a good living. She then told me she didn't want to sell anything but the t-shirts.  Now I've seen that before – it's a set-up. You can't limit your income or you wind up in a corner some months financially.   Then when you get in that corner as an ex-hooker you're more tempted to do things maybe you shouldn't do.  But I could tell that she wasn't in the “mentoring” mood out of me.  She refused to speak to our other members.  She refused to come to a meeting.   She said she had her church and she was good with that.  

I invited her to coffee or lunch and she refused.   This was about Easter time and she said she was getting ready for the holiday which I understood.  She invited me to come to her church and I thought it sounded like a great idea but my church had a date on the same day.  I told her it was conflicting with my home church and she got kind of “miffy” with me.  But her friend, Heather, called me up. She didn't want to go to coffee or lunch or talk. She wanted to invite me to HER church. When I told her the same thing – that my church was having a function – that ended that approach.

So Heather was only interested in me if I went to her church – otherwise blow me.  I got it.  I felt like I was a wishbone in a war to see who I'd go to Easter service with - screw that I had my own church I already belonged to that I was attending was the way they were acting.  By the way, this was when my daughter was very sick with what we thought was bipolar disorder.  She had also been hit by a car and her back had been broken in three places.   It triggered what they thought was fibromyalgia on top of it - meaning I was having to care for my daughter at home 24/7.  Not once did she ask me how my daughter was doing or if this single able-bodied female with enough strength to run up and down the strip at night could do anything to help me out with the situation.  In other words, if I wasn't someone she was "saving" to go to her church - screw me, my daughter, and the other SWA members as people.  We also never got invited to attend her church other than the Easter service.  Once I turned that down - it was when she emotionally disconnected.  

I turned back to Annie and explained I knew the problems with starting a new group as she was doing.  Again, it's one thing to get sober yourself for example from alcoholism.  It's a whole other thing to build a program that helps other people find sobriety as Bill Wilson did when he formed Alcoholics Anonymous.   The same for us - we learned early that building a program that "worked" for helping us was not easy.   But here she is saying she wants to build a program and so I wanted to offer any help that we could.  I mean many others had tried before her and failed most of them for specific reasons.  I wanted to share with her this information to help her increase her chances.

So I started asking her how she was solving these problems. She wouldn't answer me. Simple questions like how was she getting these women work if they had criminal records, or if they had more than one kid.  How was she protecting them from a pimp who would come looking?  Daycare was very expensive in Vegas then.  Also, all the daycares were full then.  So you could get a job – but not get daycare. I was having to do a lot of babysitting for our members as it was for that reason.

So of course I was asking her how was she handling this issue in her program and she wouldn't answer me. I then asked her about the showgirl costume. I remembered how Tammy Faye got grief over make-up. I just knew she was getting a lot of guff from the church about a showgirl costume, the blond hair, make-up, heels, etc.  She admitted the church people were on her about her make-up and the outfits but then when I asked what Benny had said to her about it she said that “Pastor Perez doesn't know”.

Now that threw me.   As a Christian, I know if you're doing a church outreach under the umbrella of a church – the church is supposed to be in charge.  You need to be in “submission” and do what they tell you.  This wasn't her outreach at the time – but it was supposedly the church's still.  But when I asked her about the clothing and costumes – she said basically “Benny doesn't know”. Keeping secrets from one's sponsor, pastor, anyone like a husband – well that worries me as it's a sign of spiritual relapse.  Also if you're representing the church, but then wearing clothes that are controversial but not letting the church itself know what you're doing that reflects on them - well it's a problem.  So I suggested she needed to tell Benny and get his clearance on the way she was dressing when appearing on these news segments.

She said she would but I could tell she wasn't happy about it. Of course I asked if she wanted to attend a SWA meeting to see for herself what they were like again thinking she needed to be around some recovering prostitutes instead of just crazy "newcomers".   I wasn't strong enough to have one far from the house – so I was holding our meetings in our conference room club house in my condo. She refused to come. I said it was “just to  check out how we do things” and I even asked her to come speak. She refused to come speak to our “newcomers”.

Then I got a call from a woman who had a five day notice on our hotline. I asked her how that happened. She told me Annie had gotten ahold of her on the street and told her that she was going to “help” her but she had to quit hooking right then. She had three kids and no job and no car. She trusted Annie and even had gone to church where she said she was paraded around for the congregation while donations were raised. She said she thought the money was to help her so she thought she was going to be okay. But no one was helping her write a resume, or go on a job interview, or apply for benefits, or anything other than parading her around the church. Because she said the next Sunday Heather did the same thing. Then she said they started pushing on her to “choose” which made her feel uncomfortable. But she didn't have time to think because she now has this 3 day notice and one day's worth of food. She said she contacted both Heather and Annie when she got the notice and instead of giving her money – they said “trust God” and blew her off. That's why she went online looking for help and found me.

Okay this isn't cool if it were true.  For all I knew - this was a lie.  I put in a call to Annie to hear her side of the story and then went ahead and picked up the woman. I typed up and filed her 5 day notice. I called Annie asking her what was up with the donations or a job for this woman and she wouldn't call me back.   I asked the woman to call her in front of me - and she didn't pick up for her either.  So I drove the woman to an employment agency to get registered.  I drove her to the food bank. I got her enrolled in daycare and aid from the state to pay for it.

Now I'm living on $650 a month in SSI because of the stroke. This tiny bit of gasoline was really hard on me that month. I couldn't afford it. So I kept calling Annie for two reasons – asking her why she would tell this woman to just stop hooking without having a job or income in place first like that, then leave her hanging, and then leave me to clean up this mess now on my dime? Where was this money that was donated?  Only now I'm not getting any return phone calls at all.  

I started trying every number thinking maybe she wasn't getting the messages.  I tried calling Heather – no call back. I tried calling Pastor Perez – no call back.  Okay this isn't cool. I thought this must be a one time thing. I left a voice mail and email with Annie this was NOT the way to do it.  I always made sure we had rent covered before I would tell a single mom with three kids to just stop paying her rent and “trust God” that the rent is going to magically appear.  I mean what was her plan here? What was she thinking? I felt it was playing with this woman's life and her children's safety. We live in a “landlord” state – meaning they can basically kick you out on your ear if you're late in Nevada. Now after the messages I left her saying this was not cool and not how it was done and how she jeopardized this woman and her kids – I thought the message at least was delivered even if she wasn't calling me back or answering me.

Wrong. The next month I got five more calls just like it. Suddenly I've got five women with five day notices all at the same time. I'm driving all over town now with FIVE prostitutes all who had just quit cold turkey and now are slapped with five day notices and no job AND now they feel betrayed by Annie and frankly I just can't afford this gas money I'm having to expend to help these women who are now in a crisis I didn't create.  No one is returning my calls.  So I  physically went down to the church and asked to speak to the Pastor Perez personally.  I got blown off.  I emailed, faxed, and left messages for him to call me because we had a problem here – and I got nothing.

Now at this point frankly I'm beginning to feel used. One woman told me that Annie HOUNDED her into coming down to the church and agreeing to quit. She told me Annie called her 12 times in one day promising she "could save her".  She said she finally decided to "give it a shot" and now her motel rent is due and Annie's cut off all calls.   Now I have no idea if that's true – but this is what she said.  I can't even get a call back from Annie to tell me her side of the story.  Nothing.  She said with the urgency of the way Annie hounded her with the phone calls and the visits to her hotel she thought Annie must have a solution – so she gave it a shot.   She quit “cold turkey” as Annie had asked, went and paraded around the church which she said embarrassed the heck out of her, and then they asked for money from the congregation.  But when her rent is due now - she says she got told “trust God” and blown off like yesterday's news.

Again, she goes online to find some help because now she doesn't want to go back to prostitution and finds me. So at this point I'm beginning to feel used. Like she thinks this is okay to do because I'm going to come and clean up the mess because I can't leave these women hanging.  I had some people say to me "think of it this way - she's doing outreach for you".  No it's not.  It's not "outreach" when I'm scrambling around helping people with five days and food banks because of an artificially created crisis.

Because instead of being able to show them anything about a program - all I'm doing now is running around solving a financial drama someone threw on them that happened because they trusted someone and got burned.  So this is the mood these women are in I'm being handed - like they were stupid for trusting someone who said they could help.  In other words, now they feel recovery is just some con they fell for is the mood they're now put in because of this.  Now that doesn't increase our membership.  Because what's going to happen is what did happen.  I solved their immediate financial crisis for them.  They feel conned and exploited.  After they get their rent paid they're disgusted with themselves and kick themselves for even thinking recovery was possible.  And they go back to the streets or their pimp who at least is trustworthy in that they know he's a bad guy.  He doesn't pretend to be a good guy and then turn out to be the bad guy in disguise.  In other words, they know what they're getting.  They turn over and look at me.  I'm in physical therapy and living on $650 a month.  I am driving a $500 Toyota.  I am counting quarters to put gas in the tank to help them.  I have a sick kid I'm taking to doctors every other day and caring for.  Not the image of recovery that's inspiring them to want this life.  I don't even have a chance to introduce them to our other members so they can see that everyone is different.  No - they let me solve their immediate problems.  And then they're right off back to sex work kicking themselves for even thinking they could ever leave.  THAT'S what she was creating and dumping on my head.  THAT'S why I wasn't out doing outreach for SWA right then because I knew that's all the new members would see and it would make them run.  

But I figured I'd make the best of this.  Now one of the ways I would get food when the food banks were out was to call local churches and ask for help. If we couldn't get the rent – I'd do the same thing. I could usually find a couple of churches that could cough up $200 bucks or so and after enough phone calls I'd get their rent raised up.  However, then this started happening – I started calling to ask for help and now I'm hearing “oh we already gave money to Annie – ask her for help – click”. Okay I'm calling Annie and saying “this church said they gave you money to help prostitutes and I got a prostitute here that needs help so I need you to call me back”. Only she's not calling me back.

So now she's creating a crisis for me to solve – AND cutting off my avenues to a solution. What's worse is that these people are seeing Annie on TV but not me. So now people are acting like “well who the hell are you?” when I'm calling.  Because I don't put our members into these crisis situations - these church people don't know me but they see Annie on TV.   How do I  counter this?  Now I'm not able to go on TV and show my face like she's doing.  I have a daughter under the age of 18 having medical issues. I can't risk affecting or harming her medical care, or her school, by putting her mom's face out there on TV as an ex-hooker. So while she's going all over TV and heavily – I'm not able to go put my face out on TV.  The last thing I need is some doctor or teacher or social worker seeing me on TV and having that affect my daughter's care.   Annie would know these things if she had kids - but she doesn't.

So now when I'm calling people are giving me an attitude like “who are you?” because I'm not on TV like she is. When I explain she's not calling me back and I can't get help from her – but I got a woman sitting on my couch that needs help and needs it now – they're giving me an attitude like “well why aren't you on TV also?”  My calls to Annie to coordinate our outreach efforts so this doesn't happen - of course are going unanswered.  

Now during this time I'd seen the Dream Center in Los Angeles on TV. I admired their work and felt we could use a branch here in Las Vegas. So I wrote the two owners and asked about coming to Vegas. They seemed very interested and we started talking. I started looking for buildings for them even. I was of course talking about having SWA meetings in their Dream Center both in LA and in Vegas when they got there. They told me that it would “take about a year” to get there and it felt like we were working on getting them there. I didn't offer residential services – so having them there to offer that looked like a good idea based on what I saw on TV. They were warm, open, friendly, and we had a good dialogue going between us.

Finally it's to the point where I have to fight fire with fire and I'm going to have to go on TV in order to gain a presence to get some help for these women that are calling me more and more each month. Only when I start calling the news stations they tell me “we already did our story for the year on prostitution with Annie” so now I'm getting doors blocked to me to get on TV even because of her work. Now if we could “coordinate” it would be easier for me. Like she could take one station and I could take another – but to do this requires her and I talk to each other. I keep trying to talk to her – and I keep not being answered.

Then I see her asking for money to open “Destiny House”. Only I had a man I knew who had a house he couldn't sell.  He wanted to donate it so he could stop paying taxes and trash and insurance. But I didn't have a 501c3. I figured great solution – they could get the house donated. So I started trying to get ahold of her again – only to find out she didn't have a 501c3 status. Okay but Benny did. So I reached out to him – and also got nothing. This was a HUGE house with a guest house and room for trailers. But now I can't reach anyone and I don't have a 501c3. So all the money they're raising could go for other things – but no one will speak to me.  In other words, I have a perfect house valued at $500,00 this guy wants to donate and donate now - and I can't get them to return my calls about it.  

Now a few times I had victims wind up homeless. I had no money for a motel. I can't get the churches now to help me because of Annie's media campaign. She's now listed on the Polaris website – but I'm not.  So people go to look me up  to verify who I am when I'm calling for help for these people being ignored also by Annie and when don't find me – they find her. They tell me “call Annie for help” and hang up on me.  I do eventually find a way to deal with this – but it was a pain. Each time I had a woman like this on my couch and I needed emergency housing – I would call her, call Heather and call Pastor Perez – and I'd get the wall of nothing.  But they're still fund raising and telling people they're “helping prostitutes”.  But the reality is - they weren't.  Just the ones THEY wanted to help.  

Suddenly I see a big news article saying that “Destiny House has opened”. It said they had “14 beds, counselors on staff, and a safe location”. Great – because that same day I had a rare thing happen. Four women had ganged up on their pimp, knocked him out, and ran.  So they had no money, no ID, no car, and I have four women who now need residential help in my lap.   I can't drive them to programs in Los Angeles or Phoenix that has housing because at that time my car had been totally trashed by the 2007 press conference we gave revealing that sex trafficking happens in legal brothels. After that news and Melissa saying I was “calling to outlaw the industry” behind my back – well my outreach car was trashed. So this is perfect timing.  Four homeless prostitutes that can't file trafficking complaints, I have no car - and I see this house has opened so I'm thinking "perfect timing".

I called the number for the house and said “I got four women who need beds”. I could hear “dead quiet” on the other end of the line.   Suddenly I'm getting told “let me call you back” over and over. Finally someone gets on the phone and tells me “there is no house”.  I'm like “but but but I just read this article in the news”.

She said “the news jumped the gun – we were SUPPOSED to get the house but the deal fell through because the man donating the house wanted to be able to visit the women too – wink wink”. Okay gotcha.  But wait a minute – if he's “donating” the house – what about the money that was donated to buy the house?  As I started asking questions – this woman cut off the call.  I then literally saw the websites disappearing. The website for the house disappeared. The website for the counselors disappeared.   Everything was being taken down – even the news article about the grand opening disappeared off line.

Now I'm confused because I'm also reading that “Destiny House” had opened months ago. I get told by a woman at the church that there was a small house Pastor Perez had rented until the donated house could be moved into – but that they had complaints from the neighbors and so they had to close that house down.

Okay fine but I'm thinking in a church of 1,000's of members like Pastor Perez has got SOMEONE can put these women up somewhere.  So I started trying to get ahold of him so maybe their church could help me find help for these women - and NO ONE WILL CALL ME BACK.   I even asked one of these women "here use your cell phone, call these people, tell them you need help and ask them to call you back".  We get NOTHING.  

The whole time I'm listening to her interviews – nothing changes.   I'm hearing a lot of statistics – but I'm not hearing WHAT her program is.  I mean people aren't donating because she changed her life and to pay her rent.  People are donating because they think she's out helping others.  Now just having a "house" isn't a "program" either.   I mean if all you needed to do was provide a hooker with a house and they'd be “cured” of all prostitution – then they'd all be out because they all have homes to begin with.

Love? They have “love” and they're still hooking. I mean I know what it took for US to develop a program that WORKED and it took us YEARS to develop a program that worked for the people we work with.  So no I don't believe she just quits herself and suddenly is now able to help others to quit when I'm also frankly not seeing that she's ever worked a job.  I'm seeing her fund raise. I'm seeing  how she used all this publicity to get herself a husband who now takes care of her who was related to Pastor Perez.

But I'm sorry if you don't know how to get a job, how to keep a job, and how to live on a budget that's making in a week what you used to make in an hour – I don't know HOW she's possibly going to be able to help anyone.  I mean how is she going to show these women how to work a job IF SHE'S NOT WORKING A JOB.   Now in SWA if we need to teach someone something - we have a member who does it show them how.  I've worked jobs.  I've made resumes.  I've done interviews.  So I can show people how to do these things.  All I'm seeing from the news is Annie taking this publicity, using it to get money for herself, a book deal for herself, and a husband.  Me?  I wrote a book about us by us for us - our Recovery Guide.  I didn't write MY memoirs - I wrote the "Recovery Guide" that our members use to help themselves that includes their stories.  Our radio program has interviews with our members to tell THEIR stories.  All I'm seeing out of Annie is Annie making a life for Annie.  

You'd think it would die down – but it gets worse. I'm getting more and more of these 5 day notice calls and that's when I start getting really angry because frankly I'm being used.  I could have written off a few in the early days as growing pains.  But now it's clear - she's doing the fund raising and the public speaking and dancing off with a check WHILE I'M DOING THE WORK and dealing with the consequences.   NOW I'M MAD.

She knows I'm not going to turn these women away.  But when the Dream Center stopped taking my calls – that's when I got even more angry.  I don't have a husband paying my bills.  My time is short.   So I just saw all that work go right down the drain.   In fact, by the time her show starts filming for Bravo everyone in Vegas STOPS taking my calls. The Salvation Army stops taking my calls. Metro stops taking my calls. The Nevada US Attorney stops taking my calls. Suddenly Annie is the new “darling” of Nevada and I can't get a return phone call because everyone wants to be on the Bravo show with Annie to get publicity.  Screw the work - we want on TV.  Because while she's being filmed - I'm the one with hookers who have escaped their pimps sitting on my couch telling me Annie's not calling them back either and that's why they called me.

Because I tried that again also. I still tried having the women themselves call from their cell phones and not mention my name in case this was personal against me.  Identify themselves as prostitutes and talk to her about the help they needed NOW. These women now are leaving their names and cell phones numbers and now she's not returning THEIR phone calls.  Okay now we're in scam territory. Because she's going around fund raising telling people she's “saving prostitutes”. Only I'm now witnessing prostitutes calling her desperately asking for help – and I'm not seeing them get a return phone call. Because here's what's happening - these prostitutes see her on TV and want help.  They reach out for help to her and don't get it.  So they look a little deeper - and find us.  They reach out to me and get me.   So now I have these women sitting in my living room saying "help me" because of what Annie promised.  Only now what am I going to do about it?  I can't get Pastor Perez on the phone either. He won't see me when I go down to the church and demand to see him.  I even went down on a Sunday and tried to see Benny in person - and got thrown out of the church.  

Now I had started talking to some producers about doing a “reality” show about all of this with another station because I'm seeing that clearly people only want to help if they're going to be on TV - so fine I'll put them on TV if that's what it takes.  But then suddenly THEY stop returning my calls. That's when I find out they're going to be filming Annie and the other company doesn't want to go up against her show.

Why?  I ask the producers why her show's more important than ours.  Well frankly she's much funnier TV than we are is what he tells me. We're doing very serious dark work. Annie's running around the strip like a nut case and people are roaring with laughter when they see her do this. In other words, she was making us a laughing stock but because it's better TV they're going to put her show on over ours which would just be depressing.  It was so bad that when I'd be in an NA meeting people would say “you're not that nut job Annie are you?” and once I'd say “no” they'd sigh and say “thank God” and then proceed to tell me how hard they laughed at her clips on TV.  But it's the laughs the producers want because that means eyeballs on the screen.

But then I hear this reality series is now partnering her with the Dream Center to open the house – so now I know why they're not returning my calls. They're now part of her reality series.  Again, all that work I'd done is now trashed.   Okay problem is it's all a lie. When I saw there was no house – I saw her continuing to speak like it was open. I saw Pastor Perez continue to take money because hes' "restructuring" he can.  But I know they won't answer the calls not just from me – but also from the prostitutes themselves now calling for help. That makes what they're doing fraud.  The donors think they're working with prostitutes - and they may be - one or two.  But they sure aren't doing what they'd leading people to believe they're doing - not by a long shot.  To top it off - they're handicapping me who is.  This isn't right.  So yes I'm angry - who wouldn't be?

I wrote to Bravo and the producers and I told them the show was basically a fraud and I was going to report them to the FCC if they continued to air this nonsense. I mean she's literally shown walking up to hookers in hotel lobby's going “psst – the cops are out tonight and hey you want to come get out of prostitution?” like it's a drug deal or something.   The show shows her doing outreach NOT the program - BECAUSE THERE IS NO PROGRAM.   People are donating to help this? Well  Bravo pulls the show after one episode aired because they realized they got a pig in  a poke too.  

It's not over however. Tom Ragan from the Review Journal calls me about doing a story on trafficking programs. Okay we do an interview. He asks me “why aren't you talking to Annie?” and "why aren't you partnering with Annie?"   I said “you tell me – she won't return my calls”.  So he interviewed her and then called me back.  I asked him “did she tell you why she won't return my calls?”  He said “yep”.  Okay “why?”   “She said it was because you were mean to her.” and with that he cracked up laughing at how absolutely immature and unprofessional that sounded out of her.  I then said “darn right I'm MEAN to her – the woman is conning people out of money and dumping the work on my head while smearing me all over town so darn right I'm angry and going to let her know it too”.  He laughed.

When everything hit the fan with Pastor Perez filing bankruptcy and the house not opening – guess who got left to actually help the prostitutes who thought they were going to get help from them? Me again.  You know it's real easy for them to cut these women off, tell them "trust God" and all that KNOWING that I'm the safety net.   But then not to help me be that safety net - well it's just wrong.  It's like going into a nice restaurant, eating all you want and then saying "it's okay HE will pay the bill and handing me the check".  It's not right.

Now granted I saw Polaris drop Annie's listing and they put mine up so that's turning around because people are finally catching on to the game  – but in the meantime we've taken some serious knocks. I got Judge Voy not taking my calls because Annie's helping him with his fundraising.  Fund raising for a house with 14 beds for teens that's NOT going to solve the problem for teens or adults.   I mean he sees 14 girls in one day. Fourteen beds isn't going to solve the 100's of hookers and strippers in Nevada that need help. Help now – not a year from now when the house is built either.  But in the meantime - I'm being blocked from providing help to those young women NOW because of all of this.  We have a program now, members now, meetings now, and we can be sending those members in to work with those young girls NOW - but instead everyone is putting their energy into fund raising and doing so by telling the media and the donors "nothing exists" which is baloney.  

Can I sue?  First of all there's no money judgment to win.  What attorney does this with no financial reward?  Meaning I'd have to hire an attorney.  Hiring an attorney is at least a $5,000 retainer.  Then the case becomes public record.  That means my real legal name is on it.  Because these are well known people I sue them and then I get my face splashed all over as the "person who sued Annie and Pastor Perez".  Oh yeah I need publicity like that like a hole in the head.   I need that so bad I'm going to go plunk down $5000 to an attorney just to have that fun ride.  No thank you.  Besides, I got people to take care of and don't have the time.

So when the dust hit the fan – does she help me with this workload?  No – she runs off to Africa for a while and acts like nothing is wrong.  What burned my butt is she never apologized to these women who felt betrayed and exploited nor did she apologize to me and my daughter. I'm now dealing with women hurt by a pimp – and now feeling hurt by her and the church. So now we got extra problems even to deal with. I'm not happy.

I've tried to get her to apologize to these women – and she does not.  So that's why I'm so “mean” to Annie Lobert.

Yes I looked into filing fraud criminal charges.  The attorney said I had to PROVE she did not help any prostitutes for the money donated.   To do that, I have to obtain records of the prostitutes she spoke to, interview them as to what was done, etc. and those interviews would be "public record".   Meaning to prosecute her, or anyone, for fraud I'd have to break the anonymity of a prostitute.   I can't do that to these women and call that "helping" them.  Yes let's brand a prostitute as the one who filed charges against Annie.  So oh well. 

Now I'm going to just "flip the script here for a moment".  Let's say I'm a "horrible mean person" who is "out of my mind" and "crazy" and have some "personal problem with Annie" and I'm even making all of this up for some reason about what happened - let me ask you something - since I'm a trafficking survivor, child of God, recovering addict, and essentially I am the person she's representing to all these people she's "trying to help" - then why oh why is she NOT calling me then even to offer me any help?   She knows I've had a stroke.  She knows I've gone through a 2nd divorce.  She knows my daughter has a brain tumor and was hit by a car which broke her back.  I've not even gotten so much as an "I'll pray for your daughter" or a condolence card when my mother or grandmother died.  Nothing.  So this means that Annie will only help the victims who are "nice" to her?  That she "likes".  Oh come on Jesus taught us to "love our enemies" - so give me a break here.  My problem isn't with Annie.  My problem is that she's getting to eat in the nice restaurant - and I'm getting stuck with paying the tab AND washing the dishes and that's just not fair. 

Especially when every time I've had to stand up to the brothel people - she's been nowhere in sight.   I found out when this was being heard.   I had an ex-brothel prostitute show up at this meeting to go up head to head against George after all the other 45 "abolition" groups had left the building, and she gave her testimony about what happens in the brothels, while I had read a letter on behalf of others who had worked in brothels about what they wanted to help them recover and to ask them NOT to pass this and it was US who wound up without power, lights, cable, phone, TV, or internet for three days after this win in retaliation for what we did - and it was Aubrey who had to relocate out of Nevada because of the death threats she got for testifying - and ANNIE WAS NOWHERE when we did this.  NOWHERE.  Except taking a bow while we had a target on us and got this defeated.  So think about that the next time you want to cut this woman a donation.

Saturday, August 1, 2015


Domestic sex trafficking is nothing new.  Just because people are discovering it for the first time - doesn't mean it's new.  Now I'm glad they're discovering it's there.  Let me tell you a true story about human perception.  For about two weeks, the Peruvian shaman was telling the villagers that he was seeing the Spanish ships coming in off the horizon.  Now they had never seen ships before so they'd stand there and look - but just not see them.   That's because in their belief system - ships didn't exist.  So they just didn't see them despite them being right there.  The shaman saw the ships because they don't filter what they see with their eyes against their perceptions of what they believe.

Now if you check the news clippings at you will find that I'm the founder of the modern day sex trafficking movement itself.  I'm also no "Samoly Mam" fake victim - but a bona fide person who has seen it all out there.  I not only saw sex trafficking of all kinds - but I also got to see how the "system" responded to me when I was seeking help to escape for five years before I found that help - as well as how the counseling community responded to my seeking help for my PTSD, depression, addiction, eating disorders, etc.

So prior to my stepping up on that first talk show stage in 1987 - no one believed domestic was real, and that it was happening currently.  Again, I refer back to the film that had just come out with Dolly Parson "The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas" as a musical comedy.  That's the world perception about the WHOLE sex industry when I stepped out there to call for change.

The last person before me to try and tell the world that people were being forced to work in the sex industry was Linda Lovelace.  Now when she was on Donahue - the audience would literally "boo" at her in disbelief.   The pimp, Chuck Traynor, of course denied it.  Marilyn Chambers, his next victim, denied it because she was making films that needed to be sold.  The crew was denying it because they wanted to continue working.  The media was denying it because no one else was stepping up to confirm her story.

Now here's the difference though between her and I and why I say I'm the "founder of the movement".  She was talking about her trafficking - and the public wasn't buying it.  When I stepped up - I wasn't just saying this was real.  Other people before me had said "this is real" and they'd be disbelieved.  There were even people who had set up a hotline and a house for teen victims before.   So people had said this was real before.

However, I was the first one not just saying this was "real" but ALSO calling out for our whole legal system to change to provide us with help.  MEANING the current system we had wasn't working for us - we needed something "different".  Now watch the film "Frozen Ground" with Nicholas Cage.  I want you to see how we were treated when one of us would go up to the police and talk about just barely escaping a crazy serial killer.  I want you to see how the police treated us and refused to even so much as get a search warrant.  This was our reality.

Meaning the "system" wasn't equipped to deal with us at all either.  The police viewed us as criminals only.  The church viewed us as "Jezebels" out to destroy families, the community, family values, even whole neighborhoods.  Churches used to organize rallies just to chase the girls out of "their part of town" like they were vermin.   I want you to watch that film also to see how when the killer came after her - the "system" did not have a safe place for her to go either.

The churches were not equipped for us because they demonized us.  I used to have to hide what I was when I'd attend church and for years (until the Trafficking Act of 2000) our program wasn't even able to get meeting space at churches because they "didn't want a bunch of hookers in their building".  If I let it slip that I was a hooker, or even that I used to be in my church - I'd have to find another church.  The women made it quite clear I was not welcome there.

Counselors thought we were nymphomaniacs or sex addicts.   If you opened up a college textbook for a psychology class - all you saw written about us was that we were junkie prostitutes with pimps standing on street corners.  There was nothing in those books about the porn industry, escorting, bondage parlors where a mistress can be making six figures a year, massage parlors, sex clubs, etc.  Certainly not anything about transgenders or the LGBT sex worker.  Nothing about lesbian bars with female strippers and clients let alone anything about female pimps.  They weren't addressing the problem - let alone the solutions.  There was nothing in there at all about how to treat us to overcome our issues because our issues weren't even in the textbooks.

The jails viewed us as criminals and an easy way to get a "per diem" payment for our incarceration.  The courts viewed us as "hopeless" cases who would always "be back".  Domestic violence and homeless shelters refused to admit us even when our program wasn't prostitution that we were seeking out help for.  Hospitals wouldn't admit us and in 1986 there was even a Bill being discussed to put us on quarantine on an island with junkies to try and protect "decent' people from getting infected with HIV.

So trust me - when I stepped up on that stage with the first 800 number hotline for ADULTS asking for anyone who needed help to not just leave sex work to call us but also if they NEEDED HELP TO ESCAPE TRAFFICKING, and also asking for our legal system to CHANGE by stopping treating us like criminals across the board without first taking the time to understand each individual case,  asking our counseling system to change by understanding we were not nymphomaniacs or sex addicts with daddy issues, the church to not treat us like we were tools of the devil to be shunned and cast out but actually as part of their church like any other sinner, the colleges to start developing coursework for people on how to work with us, and even hospitals to treat us like any other patient - it was truly ground breaking.  It was not unlike what the domestic violence, the rape, and the child abuse movements have had to go through as they've had to evolve the whole systems' way of responding to them as well.

Take for example that after a rape in the "old days" they didn't use to have rape kits.  Nowadays it's standard - but that had to be fought for.  The domestic violence movement had to fight to have police officers trained in how to respond to a DV call properly.  Tracey Thurman had to have her throat cut, her head stomped on while an officer stood right there before it's now become standard police training to make sure all weapons are removed from the abuser when the police arrive upon the scene.   So what I'm saying is that I wasn't just saying we needed to be believed - I was saying that the system had to change the way it responds to us in order for us to get the proper help.

Now I was not welcomed either like you see today when I started opening my mouth about this stuff.  The police felt I was saying they "weren't good enough" which wasn't the case.  Different doesn't mean bad - but yes they need to evolve just as they evolved to address domestic violence, rape and child abuse.  I had the audiences yelling at me also just like they did Linda.  Every single time I went on TV I was fired and evicted.

So you know what?  I had to be a fighter and I had to have a tough skin or I never would have kept coming back and kept coming back no matter how many times people told me "this isn't true" or "this is too dark" or "this is too negative" and "we don't want to hear this - it's depressing" and I just kept coming back DEMANDING that America LOOK and DO SOMETHING.   I mean realize it took us from 1987 to 2000 to get that Trafficking Act passed - do you realize how many YEARS this took of me yapping at people's heels to get their attention for this movement to even exist?

In 1988 - Joe Conforte gave $1,000,000 to a PR firm to announce his campaign to expand brothels across California.  He had a study done by a professor at UC Berkeley that was rigged to make it appear that no brothel prostitute had HIV.  Then he embarked upon a media campaign to convince voters to allow those brothels to expand into California.  The only person who would stand up against him because of his reputation was myself.  Which means at least once a month I'd be going up against Joe and usually about 3 or 4 other prostitutes from the ranch yelling at me for an hour about how it was all a "victimless crime" and how "wonderful" prostitution was  - then I'd come home to a pink slip and a 30 day notice to move as my thank you from a landlord who "didn't want a whore for a tenant" and a boss who said "I will lose customers if people know you used to be a prostitute".  We got no grant money nor any donations because we weren't even recognized as real yet.  So everything that we did - had to come out of my personal pocket.  So on top of all of this - I had to work two and three jobs also.

Now - do you see brothels in California?  No.  We won.  Do you see them in Las Vegas?  After 20 years of battling it out - Las Vegas finally put up the Mob Museum where it had been trying to plant a brothel instead and there's also now an art district there.  Do I get an award or a plaque?  Hell no.  My name even mentioned?  In the news where it spoke about the final vote going down against them - our name isn't even mentioned.  If not for the videotape we have of the hearing - you'd never even know we'd even been there to counter the brothel lobbyist who was making the push and lost.  Look - do you see Sex Workers Anonymous anywhere in this article?   But what went down was George got up and gave his pitch - and then we had Aubrey, an ex-brothel prostitute get up and tell them what REALLY goes on inside a legal Nevada brothel.  Fanfare?  Parade?  Abolitonists throwing banquets for us?  Not a chance.

So I think I know something about this field and this work after answering 500,000 phone calls and letters, after 29 years of working with us from one end of the country to the other, after writing our Recovery Guide, etc.   But to get our program started - then mayor Tom Bradley opened a lot of doors for us.  He got us into the Sybil Brand Institute for Women where we interviewed every single inmate.  We found that no matter what the charge - every woman in that jail, over 2,000 of them, had been forced into prostitution at one point or another by a pimp or a trafficker (and yes there's a difference).

Armed with now 2,000 case histories - we were then able to go to another 2,000 sex workers in the community and ask them what the story was.  Why were they there?  What was blocking them from leaving the sex industry?  Did they have a pimp?  How could the city help them?  Now let me ask you something - do you have ANY IDEA how long it took me, and how hard it was to get 2,000 ex-prostitutes to admit to me they used to be prostitutes first of all, and then after that to get them to tell me their whole story of what happened and how they got out?  It was no easy feat and it was very time and money consuming.   But I didn't want "theories" on what "worked" to get us out and stay out - I wanted to know what DID work.  To do that - we needed to interview 2,000 male and female ex-prostitutes that had five years or more of "time".  So I scoured and scoured and asked and asked - and we found them.  In fact, I spent over $400,000 putting these case histories together and building our program out of my own money mind you. 

Armed with that information we learned quite a few things.  For one thing - the church had tried to help many times before.  I gathered together a whole stack of case histories of faith based outreach programs that had tried to go out and help.  But they all failed because of a lack of understanding about what they were doing, who they were doing it for, the dynamics of the relationships, how the sex industry worked, how trafficking worked, etc.  It was like asking someone with no training and no experience to go out and repair a car with only a screw driver.  They had the heart - but not the right tools or training. As a result - they burned out and the hookers got tired of listening to them.

To learn about "deprogramming" the brainwashing the pimps do on their victims - I had to go study with a religious cult deprogrammer.  Interestingly, the methods of brainwashing are almost identical.   For Stockholm Syndrome - I had to ring up a fortune in long distance phone calls to even find anyone that knew how to treat it.  Then I had to talk them into teaching me for free.  For our PTSD - I sought out experts at the Veterans Hospital and talked them into giving us free training on how treatment for that works.  I sat in on countless classes at UCLA where the professors were kind enough to let me just sit in and listen.

Once we felt we had a program that worked - well then we had to go out there to find people to help.  A commission was put together by Bradley where someone from every department was there.  The police, probation, social services, judges, the church, health services, etc.  No one got paid and there was no media there.  We removed the financial factors and we removed the need for posturing for the media.

This was just about the work and what needed to get done.  From those meetings we were able to put together a combination outreach program, intervention, residential, outpatient, etc., program that WORKED.  For example, we found the transgenders were unwilling to come out to be tested because they were afraid they'd be stared at.  So we set up a place that was staffed by other trans-genders and that encouraged them to come out.  It worked because when we started the program - sex workers had an 80 percent HIV infection rate with 90 percent saying they wanted help to quit.  One year later - we had dropped the HIV rate to 6 percent (less than non-sex workers) and those who had said they didn't want to be in the sex industry were all out.  We had found them jobs, created them jobs, or got them into a program that supported them without sex work.

Relapse was a huge problem at first.  Almost 98 % were relapsing within three days of intervention just like that article with D'Lita Miller stated here    It was confusing to everyone.  Which is another reason why we formed ourselves as a 12 step group - because everyone kept complaining "but no matter how much we help them they just go back" so we had to stop that relapse cycle.

I put together a board of mentors from the various 12 step programs - we had Alcoholics Anonymous, Narcotics Anonymous, Sexaholics Anonymous, Gamblers Anonymous, Overeaters Anonymous, Emotions Anonymous, etc.  Because you have to realize these men and women weren't just suffering from one issue.  The average person we saw as suffering from it ALL - from Stockholm Syndrome, to depression, to eating disorders, sexual dysfunction, addiction, PTSD, disassociative disorders, the whole shebang.  But besides resources - we had to address WHY they kept relapsing.

Do you know why?  Because a relapse could be fatal that's why.  I saw a woman once before we knew what we were doing relapse.  Only a week later they found her body in a motel room murdered by her pimp that "taught her a lesson for leaving him" when he caught up with her back on the streets.  This is not a game here - these are people's very life.   The system had to start realizing that a relapse could be fatal - because in many cases it is.  A relapse is preventable if you know what you're doing and have proper training. 

Now the first program was a big disaster.  No one wanted to listen to us.  They thought this was just a social services and/or drug program.  They thought housing, self-esteem classes, drug treatment and teaching job skills was going to solve the problem.  So they got them all these resources together to provide them with.   I disagreed with their approach and walked away briefly wanting nothing to do with what they were doing.   I told Bradley "it won't work and I don't want my name on it" and quit.

Do you know what happened?  A year later they had clean typists with apartments and GED's who were then getting arrested for prostitution.  How's that?

With egg on their face - these people came back and said "okay we're willing to listen" and that's when they allowed us to start taking real recovering sex workers and going in to better train people working with us.  Word spread fast that we were effective.  We had the resources - the system just didn't know how to utilize them properly.  I remember getting a call from a program down in Long Beach.  The director said they were having a real problem with the residents so I agreed to come down and see what I could do.  Upon walking into the program I found the problem - and it wasn't with the residents.  It was the staff.   When the program made the staff changes I suggested - the problem resolved itself and their recovery rates went up.

What was their problem?  Every case is different but with this situation I walked in to see an African American pregnant prostitute who was holding a two year old with one hand and holding a baby carriage with a newborn in the other.  The counselor was a skinny white woman with glasses who looked like she was in school on daddy's money.  I checked the parking lot and sure enough - she was driving a BMW.   The woman was standing there not helping the mother with this look of disdain like she had cooties or something on her face.  Clearly this was not an "emphatic" relationship that Narcotics Anonymous says in their "Basic Text" is the "healing therapy" for those like us.  

But that wouldn't have happened without the support of the governor.  He saw the 99 % failure rate of these programs when it came to the prostitutes and trafficking victims.  He said he wasn't going to "keep funding failure".  Then he said anyone who didn't bring up their success rates within one year was going to have their funding cut.  THAT'S when people started bringing us in for training - and that's when we got the numbers turned around.  In other words, before these people didn't care as long as they got their paychecks.  But when their checks got tied to some results - then they were willing to take some training from us and that's when things turned around.

What had happened before was identical to how people used to view alcoholism.  Prohibition had been brought about thinking that was a solution.  It just created more crime.  There are a lot of parallels there by the way.  Churches used to have alcoholics sign pledges to never drink again.  Didn't work.  Other churches told the wives if they were "better wives" their husbands wouldn't drink so much.  Didn't work.  Even the Oxford Group church devoted to helping alcoholics was not working long term.  Nothing worked until Bill Wilson came in and created a system of "one alcoholic helping another" AND took out the restriction of religion - making recovery about recovery and not about religion in other words.

The minute I saw money enter into this field - the field forgot it's founder - me.  It seemed to forget everything I was calling for.  We don't need more of the very things that caused these problems.  Just as you don't solve alcoholism by prohibition and adding more cops to the beat.  AA also showed us that doctors and therapists needed to be trained properly - and now we even have a special license for drug and alcohol counselors because the training about how we operate is different than "other" people also.  Well trafficking victims are the same.

But instead of focusing on healing us - what I've been seeing is this field has turned into a battle ground because it involves sex.  I'm also seeing this field turned into a way for the church to evangelize in the disguise of trafficking because to them sex means women.  They are not acknowledging that ALL can be victims - women, men and transgenders.  They've also turned this into their new evangelizing and the safe houses are the new "building fund" of the past.

See it's not cool to go out anymore and hand out tracts to get people into your church.  What is cool now is to play a trafficking film that will bring the men into the church with the check books.  It's not cool anymore to get donations to spread Christianity across the USA and other countries.  But it is cool now to go out scouring for "trafficking victims to save".  It's not good anymore to build orphanages or senior or nursing homes.  No - now it's cool to "build safe houses".   There's no need to have "single mothers' homes" like my grandmother had to disappear to when she got raped and pregnant in the 1940's.  Where young girls used to "go visit an aunt" have the baby and then go back home like nothing had happened.  But where do those babies come from now?  They're coming out of the "safe houses for trafficking victims" - that's where.

Now the only thing I saw turn around this situation before was when the governor threatened the funding because of the failure rates.  Right now I don't see that happening because trafficking programs are bringing money into the states - without tying them to success rates.   The police aren't going to stop it because they're getting a boatload of money into their stations that wouldn't be coming otherwise because our "terrorist threats" aren't the ticket anymore.

So I"m researching a very large "economic interference" lawsuit at the moment to do something to stop this mad rush for money WITHOUT changing the very system that created this problem in the first place.  Because honestly - when a program that is in the field I created wants to act like I don't exist so they can line up for the grant money that wouldn't exist without my hard work and sacrifice - I call that "economic interference".  Since more than one person is involved - that makes it a conspiracy.  And when they want to act like my knowledge and experience don't matter in the field I created and developed - then I also call that "defamation".  I don't know what else to do to turn this around but sue.  Even AA had to sue at one point to get their program forced into the jails at one point.  So yes I'm looking into legal measures to take to solve this problem because honestly the churches have turned this into their new battleground because they know these women can't stand up for themselves publicly without identifying themselves as "prostitutes".  What a fix.

Because this field turned into a battle ground over women's bodies by people who think this is about women.  My head never spun around so fast as when this issue got federal recognition.  Once it became "real" in the mind of the public and once money became available - because of my YEARS of hard work, expense, sacrifice, etc. and because of Michael Horowitz's writing of the Trafficking Act of 2000 where even he says this field has become an "entitlement program for states" and confirms he believes the field has been hijacked by the religious right - it has become a battle ground for the issue of abortion, birth control, even control over womens' bodies.

All the while ignoring the male victims of this problem.  Male victims like this boy -  Because if all 16 year old females are victims - then a 16 year old male is a victim also.  Little girls don't pop out of the womb hookers and neither do little boys pop out of the womb pimps.  There is an adult behind this boy and he needs to be identified as a victim because in the eyes of someone who does know how this world works - he is a victim just as much as that girl is.

Just as Planned Parenthood is under attack by actors and hidden cameras along with all kinds of media distortions about what they do - our program has also been experiencing the same issues.  In the year 2000 - we had a meeting of Sex Workers Anonymous in just about every Salvation Army Shelter, Catholic Charity, etc.  Just about every court, mental health center, social worker, etc. would give referrals to our program.  We were truly a nationwide program that was effective.  Two people who are public about getting help from being hopeless in our program were Kathleen Mitchell and Brenda Myers-Powell - who then went on to form their own programs.  So we even have a "second generation" of members who are out helping others by 2000.

But then the pink slips went out.  I didn't know why for a while - but I found out.  The Catholic Church had gone in and told all these other programs they would pay for "case management" of each client as long as they only used programs that were in the "Freedom Registry".  What that registry was consisted of a list of programs who had signed an agreement they would not let their clients access any services that would bring them into contact with anyone that would even say the word "abortion".  That included medical doctors and licensed therapists.

So what you were now seeing was prostitutes who were suffering from horrific trauma and in need of very highly skilled professional medical and psychological treatment - were being denied access to anyone other than a "pastoral counselor" with 16 hours of training.  That's it.  Only women of child bearing age were being targeted for "safe houses" because they might be pregnant.  What that looks like is this - there's a program in Los Angeles called "Treasures".  They go out into the strip clubs and tell the strippers that "Jesus Loves Them" and they look for women who might be pregnant and needing to get away from a pimp.  They are then sent to what they are told is a "aafe house" but in reality it's an adoption mill.  Doubt me?  Check out where they have the words "safe house" and an adoption application right on the same page.  Well prayers and the Bible are great - but sometimes people need proper medical professional help.

Now we advise our members to "not make any major decisions" until they have a year of time under their belt and are stabilized.  That means a year from the streets.  A year off drugs.  A year in their own homes and working.  A year where they're stable and can make a rational decision.  Yet this Mercy Ministries program is asking women who are hormonal anyway because they're pregnant, and in this horrible traumatized state - to make a decision like giving up their babies without any professional or experienced advice from the outside.  And because a program like ours would say that they need to be stable before making a life altering decision like that - well then they just want to pretend like we don't even exist.

It's the "crisis pregnancy centers" reborn.  You remember them if you're my age.  They would advertise "free pregnancy testing" and then when you'd get there they'd play a bunch of videos at you and if you were pregnant they'd then do everything they could to get you to sign an agreement you would not abort the baby.  Which is fine really - but then they'd lie.  They'd tell the women that abortion was illegal, there were no doctors in that state that would do them - or any other lie they could think of to convince this woman to think their way.  I'm not for abortion mind you but I am not for deception and manipulation.  That's what pimps do.

The reason why this ACLU lawsuit came about is because I kept getting phone calls from women telling me they were being told they would "make horrible mothers because they were just junkie whores after all", and then once they'd given up the baby they'd be cast out in the street like garbage.   Since they had lied to this woman and told her that "no other services existed" she'd be right back out on the streets again.  Luckily some found their way to us and told us the story while we patched their lives back up.

I want to invite you to look at the effects of this.  If we had been left alone - we'd still have Sex Workers Anonymous groups all over Long Beach, and the whole USA, like it was still today.  Even bigger than they were.  We used to do programs in the high schools where survivors would go out and talk to the high school kids about what to watch out for from pimps.  We even spoke at some of the high schools in Long Beach in the late 1980's and early 1990's before I left California in 1994.  We used to have self-defense classes donated by local instructors.  Tarzana Treatment Center was one of the places where we had weekly meetings in Long Beach actually.  Once the women would graduate from there - they would hold service positions teaching about rape prevention, answering the suicide hotline, and going out again to speak to the young about what to avoid and be careful of.   Because our program teaches that you "keep what you have by giving it away" so we advocate holding service positions in the community as part of your recovery.

As well as helping girls avoid prostitution - we also used to work with the young men to not be lured into becoming pimps as well down there.  We had an ex-pimp that used to go down there speaking to young men about leaving the game also.  Yes we worked with the pimps - but they had their own sub-group led by ex-pimps that worked with the newcomer pimps to help them also exit and recover.  For every victim of trafficking you get off the streets - for every pimp you get off the streets you save at least 10 victims.  And in the cases of teenage pimps - they're victims also.

I read that D'Lita Miller had her own daughter sucked into trafficking in 2011.  I would like to think if we had not been forced to reorganize our program to not have such a visible presence as we once had - that this might have been avoided.   We used to run PSA's at night on TV in Long Beach.  We had a weekly cable show that used to air in Long Beach with men and women telling their stories that the young were learning from.  We had social workers in the juvenile system that would refer the kids to us as well as the parents.  The local mental health centers used to refer prostitutes to us as did the probation officers.  That was until the Catholic Bishops started cutting off anyone from services that wasn't in their "Freedom Registry".  This by the way is why we're supposed to have "separation of church and state".  So I'd like to think if we hadn't of been bowled over in this "war on women" that maybe D'lita's daughter might have been forewarned - and her mother might have known that programs like Children of the Night were 20 minutes away for her daughter and that SWAN was a phone call away for her.

Instead in these articles, she says she was told "there were no resources in 2011".  She told me on a phone call we had that they didn't have any way to relocate them to safety.  My heart broke when I heard that because I know of more than one existing resource where she, and her daughter, could have been relocated to safety in a way that's designed to protect from dangerous pimps.  So someone lied to her.  Maybe these resources aren't a part of her church - but they do exist.  And since she's only been "out of the game" for about two years now from what this article said - we've been doing this since 1987.

So let's get clear about this.  It's not that "resources don't exist".  It's that "religious" resources don't exist.  Let's be very clear about that.  Especially when I'm reading articles like this that claim that a young girl had to be "shipped out to San Bernardino".  There are resources 20 minutes away from them.  What breaks my heart is to think that a victim is going back into their situation thinking that "no resources exist" simply because their church doesn't want to recognize something else exists.  Either that or this is another propaganda campaign to get grant money - one or the other.  

All I can do now is talk to the reporters who are writing these articles like the ones with Kevin Brown or these with D'Lita Miller because to say "nothing exists" is just plain wrong.  Now not everyone has internet to look up that resources do exist so something needs to be done because someone isn't doing their homework.  Only this lack of information is directly linked to young girls being trafficked, and victims thinking that "no resources" exist when it reality that's what people are saying to get grant money into their county.  I'm sorry but some of these people are part of the problem.

Because if these people can't get onto Google and see that there are resources all over Los Angeles County that have been providing help to these victims in some cases for over 30 years - I mean how much can they know about this work?  The Mary Magdalene Project was opened in 1980 in Reseda.  Children of the Night was opened in 1979 in Van Nuys.  Our program opened in Los Angeles in 1987.  I don't remember how long Covenant House has been around.  Treasures even exists for that matter.  So there are other programs that exist.

If you want to evangelize for your religion - then be upfront about it.   But if you want to help sex trafficking victims - then you have an obligation to those victims to provide them with a program of help that works.  This isn't a game.  People die if this isn't done right.  People don't just pick up a scalpel and go operate on someone.    You need to go to medical school and get a license.  And frankly if you're going to go out there and help other trafficking victims D'Lita - then you need a little more than just your daughter's been out two years now.  She hasn't even hit the three year wall where studies show that 98 percent of us relapse without "proper" treatment.  Treatment that doesn't just fall out of thin air nor that's available in our "traditional system".  Plus what works for your daughter isn't a cookie cutter that will work for every victim coming in the door.  It's not that simple.

Now numbers don't mean effective. You might have 1,000 people in your program - but that doesn't mean it's working.  I mean people actually leaving the sex industry permanently, staying clean, and finding recovery long term.  We have members of SWA now who have been with us since 1991.  Here's a video of one of them.  This woman has now raised three kids, clean, and out of prostitution.  I think we know what we're doing.

So the question is - why am I being treated like the enemy by these people?  I wish I knew because they won't talk to me.  I've told D'Lita Miller that I can show her everything I know - and she just stopped talking to me.  So I don't know.  Maybe I'm like those ships the Peruvians couldn't see that were right in front of their eyes.  I mean I'm glad all these people are finally opening their eyes to a problem that's been here all along.  But there's a solution that's here also too they need to open their eyes to also before the Spaniards hit the sand.

But this not talking to me or anyone in SWA or people who aren't part of their church?  It's not what Jesus taught - that's for sure.

Because honestly - I got two ways of looking at someone who isn't seeing the ship in front of their own eyes.  It's either they haven't heard of us possibly before - or they don't want to hear about us.  I mean look at this great propaganda campaign we just saw Kevin Brown pulling off -  Now this guy was in the OC Register also.  He was in the Los Angeles Times.  He even had a whole "reality" series produced by Relativity Media and aired on A&E.  Only there was no "program" he was talking those women into.  The women on the show?  All paid actors.  Even D'Lita Miller told me she's got a "signed confidentiality agreement with Tom Forman".   Now why would that be?   What's she got to not talk about?   Kevin Brown's so called "church" turned out to be a bunch of doctor's offices when checked into.  So I've got a lot of legwork to do here about what's obviously one big fraud with Kevin Brown.

My point being when HE acted like he didn't know anything about our program, and others, it was because he didn't want to know because it was a complete fraud upon the public right down to the paid "survivors".  What's D'Lita's excuse for not knowing about us before?  Don't know but I know she knows about us now and now my calls are going unreturned.

This is why I'm embarking upon the reports I'm going to be investigating.  This is not "personal".  But I got this movement federal recognition.  I got the fact we exist to become a reality.  I got federal recognition meaning that there's money now to help us.  But now what's standing inbetween real victims getting real help is the police and these church people.  Because that's a lot of money I'm not seeing going into real victims.  I'm sorry but a "drop in center" in Long Beach ISN'T to help SEX TRAFFICKING VICTIMS.

Why?  I guarantee you a true trafficking victim wouldn't be wallowed to walk into that center.  Just as a true victim isn't going to go into a hotel room with Kevin Brown and after 8 minutes go "okay" and walk off into the sunset with him to be free.  The DEFINITION of a trafficking victim is that they can't get out and they can't get to help.  They can't get to a phone.  They're locked up in a house somewhere.  If they can call for help - they can't because someone they care about is being threatened if they do.

I mean having a center is great - but let's get real here - that's not for trafficking victims to get help.  So I'm starting on these reports - city by city - about how these programs are operating and what is being done, and not done, for REAL victims - and well I guess I can see the fight isn't over yet to get help to these victims.  At least we have people knowing we exist.  Now we just have to educate them as to WHAT we are.   And what pimps are - you know people who exploit prostitutes for money?

(copyright 2015 J. Williams all rights reserved) 

PIMPS DON'T FALL OFF TREES  This story says that the pimp was 16 years old.  However, Sex Workers Anonymous has worked with helping many pimps to leave being pimps.  The average age for a pimp to start "pimping" is 13 years of age.  Since adult women will not be pimped by a boy, especially because it's statutory rape, they of course will pimp young girls.  Look at the case of Montana Fishburne who was pimped out by Jeremy Greene, or J-Pipes, as he used to call himself.  You can read more about him at  But he started pimping her when they were both 16 years old.  The minute she turned 18 years old he had her down at the Vivid porn offices to turn out her film that in my opinion was a cry for help from her father who instead of saying "I love you - please come home" instead just talked about how "embarrassed he was".  I wrote the Dr. Phil producers when that happened saying "now that's a show" but I guess no one wanted to appear.

Now an adult pimp knows that if they go near a girl that's under 18 years of age - they can be charged with statutory rape.  Solution?  They teach their sons to rape.  I invite you to listen to Aubrey's story.  Her pimp "turned her out" at 12 years of age.  He was about the same age as her - 13 years old.  However, his father was orchestrating the whole thing.  If the cops came down on them - it was the boy who would have been charged as a juvenile.  Now does that hold that the boy is a pimp or a victim of this own father's abuse?  I hold that the boy is not a true predator - but in training to be one by the true predator - the father.

I invite you to listen to an interview we have with a 32 year old ex-pimp who also confirms that he was "mentored" in how to be a pimp by adult pimps.  Now this boy was 13 years old also when these adult pimps "mentored" him in how to pimp out other young girls.  I pose that while he thought he was acting independently - he was not being "taught" but in fact manipulated and controlled no different than how the female prostitutes are.

I should know.  I was also lured into a pimping family I've spoken about when I was young.  In order to teach me how they pimped they said I had to first go through the same process the victims/prostitutes did in order to understand their mind set.  What I'm trying to say is that they teach the young pimps how to be pimps by literally turning out the boys first.  Look it's complicated and why I've detailed the whole process in my memoirs.   But essentially they are sexually abusing these boys in order to teach them how to be a pimp first as part of the grooming and training of the boys.  But the men use the boys to touch the girls so they don't get charged with statutory rape - and well so this is exactly what happens.  This boy is fed to the wolves - instead of the real abusers.

I get asked often how we can choose in Sex Workers Anonymous to welcome in and help some pimps - but exclude others.  When a young boy is being controlled, brainwashed, and raised in how to be a pimp by his own father - that child is a victim.   He needs help.  Someone needs to step in, intervene, and remove that child from that father and straighten that boy's head out.   It's natural for a young man to want to impress and please his father.  I say there's enough cultural material through people like Snoop Dogg to make a boy "think" this is an lifestyle worth following.  I mean listen to radio shows now like this encouraging young boys to "go out to the mall to find a girl to mack on" -  We have Snoop Dogg talking about pimping during his 2003 Playboy Tour in Rolling Stone and NO ONE PROTESTED NOR ARRESTED HIM after this article was published.

No - in fact he's now even created a youth football league, even with cheerleaders, that's spreading across Los Angeles like wildfire.  Now Snoop has said in an interview that he teaches HIS son to "not do as I do - but what I say" and as a result his son is now in UCLA and on the Bruins football team.  However, I see no such program to teach the other children this message and hence why i started until he acknowledges he harmed some women during that tour, women i know for a fact are damaged because we had to rescue them, and that he set about a program for the kids in this youth league that does what he did for his own son - teaches them this is NOT COOL.

This case here in San Luis Obispo is NOT an anomoly.  It's not rare.  It's a fact and it's going to keep growing as these laws keep cracking down harder on adult traffickers and pimps.  Because what do criminals do?  Find loopholes to avoid the law.  Honestly - it's why making more laws is not the solution.  Because all you're doing by cracking down harder on adult pimps is now they're turning to young boys to turn them into pimps so they can pimp through them just as drug dealers have been doing ever since I can remember.  They have the kids sell and carry the drugs so that when they get popped - the kid goes into juvie..

The problem here is this and I've been warning you about this for 20 years now.  All this demonizing  of the young pimp as a "trafficker" and "predator" is exactly this case.  This boy is being touted as a "pimp" when in fact he's also a child and a victim himself.   The laws don't run both ways.  If it's a girl it's a "victim" but if it's a boy then he's automatically a "predator".   Young boys don't pop out of the womb pimps anymore than young girls pop out of the womb hookers.  There is an adult male behind this boy that needs to be sought out and the boy needs just as much help as that female prostitute does.

Proposition 21 that wants to try this boy as an adult is bogus.  That boy is a victim and putting him into an adult jail around others who will just up his game is not the solution.   He needs help - not to be criminalized and thrown away by the system.    Snoop - this is the damage you're causing i'm talking about and why you need to create a program for your kids in that league to do something about this.  They're listening to you - but you're not sending the right message yet.